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Abies ?

monkeytreeboy15
14 years ago

This is my first time uploading pictures.

If this works, cna anyone identify this tree? I know it's an Abies, but I don't know the species.

Thanks!

Comments (11)

  • clement_2006
    14 years ago

    I think Abies balsamea, but more information are neccesary : close up on buds and foliage.
    Clément

  • pineresin
    14 years ago

    Yep, needs close-up pics, showing side shoots from above and below. Best shoot for identification is to select a medium-vigour shoot, not a very weak one, nor a very strong one.

    Resin

  • monkeytreeboy15
    Original Author
    14 years ago

    Okay here are some more pics. Anymore guesses?

    This is one of the four "crown" shoots.


    Unfortunately, some of the pictures are at the wrong angle...

  • monkeytreeboy15
    Original Author
    14 years ago

    Okay here are some more pics. Click on the thumbnail for a high-resolution, rotated picture. Anymore guesses?

    This is underside of one of the four "crown" shoots.

  • pineresin
    14 years ago

    Thanks!

    Abies balsamea (Balsam Fir) for me too.

    Resin

  • monkeytreeboy15
    Original Author
    14 years ago

    Okay. Thanks for the help, guys. I thought I might add that this tree came up as a volunteer in Washington state. I know there are Abies grandis, Abies procera, and possibly Abies amabilis growing around the area. Does Abies balsamea grow around here, too?

  • pineresin
    14 years ago

    Abies balsamea is likely planted as an ornamental tree, perhaps also a christmas tree crop.

    With it being self-sown, that makes the option of a hybrid possible - that would need seeing a cone to make an intelligent guess as to the parentage. A few years away yet, unfortunately.

    Abies seeds are fairly heavy for their wing size, so tend not to blow very far. Worth looking round to see what mature coning Abies there are within 100-200 metres range.

    Resin

  • wadet
    14 years ago

    Nice seedling! It's been my experience that Balsam firs perform much better in western WA over related firs such as Abies fraseri. They seem to be more adapted to drought, heat and pollution. This tree was planted around '02 as a seedling. The owner(a neighbor) died 2 years back but the tree is doing fine with no care in Buckley WA. Note the small Fraser fir(left) I gave him in '06.


    Here's mine a few hundred feet away - growing on pure sand and rock.

  • clement_2006
    14 years ago

    With the new pics with foliage,he look like Abies procera,
    especialy the bud and the form of needles .
    What you think Resin ??
    Clément

  • coniferjoy
    14 years ago

    As I'm not a specimen specialist I have my doubs that the plant at Monkeytreeboy photo's is an Abies balsamea.
    In my opinion it's an Abies amabilis because the needles are standing very flat at the branch while Abies balsamea do have upright needles on the branch.

    I have an Abies amabilis in my Pinetum with the same characteristics as the plant on the photo's.
    I don't have the species Abies balsamea but some treeforms cultivars like 'Argentea', 'Bruce's Variegated' and 'Weeping Larry' which all have the same needles as the species and all of them do have the upright needles on the branch.

    Maybe Wadet can show us some close up photo's to make it all clear.
    Even the plant at his picture shows us upright needles.
    Thanks in advance.

  • clement_2006
    14 years ago

    No edwin, not abies amabilis, certainly not.
    Cément