Could TVR bring back the Cerbera Speed 12?
Discussion
AmosMoses said:
The moulds must exist still and i imagine details on the chassis exist, there's even 1 physical car lurking around!
Two of that variation actually, but one of them has a modified Aston Martin V12 rather than the Speed 12 engine. Some of those engines exist but one has a twisted head if my memory serves.TwinExit said:
300bhp/ton said:
There were several incarnations of the Speed 12.
Yep, but let's not allow facts to get in the way of people posting photos of modified/racing cars to get some point across!Didn't offer enough cooling.
The one 300bhp/ton posted never made it to road car phase.
One of the racing versions still exists though it's status is something I don't know. It was at the Manchester Classic Car Show last month, seen here:
And before that at one of the Supercar Driver/VMAX events:
Edited by F1GTRUeno on Friday 16th November 21:16
Edited by F1GTRUeno on Friday 16th November 21:17
F1GTRUeno said:
One of the racing versions still exists though it's status is something I don't know. It was at the Manchester Classic Car Show last month, seen here:
Er, am I the only one seeing a Sagaris?Edited by F1GTRUeno on Friday 16th November 21:16
Edited by F1GTRUeno on Friday 16th November 21:17
Muzzer79 said:
F1GTRUeno said:
One of the racing versions still exists though it's status is something I don't know. It was at the Manchester Classic Car Show last month, seen here:
Er, am I the only one seeing a Sagaris?Edited by F1GTRUeno on Friday 16th November 21:16
Edited by F1GTRUeno on Friday 16th November 21:17
The Speed 12 is one of my dream cars from my childhood. I was 12 when the Cerbera version became a thing. I saw it racing in British GT and fell in love with the entire concept...but mainly because I had a big pubescent (and post-pubescent!) hard on for big V12s. And this was just a V12 draped in plastic.
F1GTRUeno said:
AmosMoses said:
The moulds must exist still and i imagine details on the chassis exist, there's even 1 physical car lurking around!
Two of that variation actually, but one of them has a modified Aston Martin V12 rather than the Speed 12 engine. Some of those engines exist but one has a twisted head if my memory serves.TwinExit said:
300bhp/ton said:
There were several incarnations of the Speed 12.
Yep, but let's not allow facts to get in the way of people posting photos of modified/racing cars to get some point across!Didn't offer enough cooling.
The one 300bhp/ton posted never made it to road car phase.
One of the racing versions still exists though it's status is something I don't know. It was at the Manchester Classic Car Show last month, seen here:
And before that at one of the Supercar Driver/VMAX events:
Edited by F1GTRUeno on Friday 16th November 21:16
Edited by F1GTRUeno on Friday 16th November 21:17
TwinExit said:
How would you 'properly engineer' a light RWD chassis to put 900 horsepower on the road back in the 1990's then?
It is possible for powerful light cars get moving fast, the problem is normally driving in low gears like 1st and 2nd and perhaps 3rd gear where traction is not there, TVR have no indemnity against the likes of Premier league footballers and hamfisted playboys who would tt the thing as soon as they go beyond half-throttle.
Push the weight back, shorter wheelbase / cabin, transaxle gearbox, aim for slightly tail-heavy weight distribution. Softish rear suspension to let it squat down a bit and find traction - aim for longitudinal weight transfer. Wide rear tyres. Big rear wing (as seen above). Torsionally rigid chassis with fairly tightly mounted engine and drivetrain.It is possible for powerful light cars get moving fast, the problem is normally driving in low gears like 1st and 2nd and perhaps 3rd gear where traction is not there, TVR have no indemnity against the likes of Premier league footballers and hamfisted playboys who would tt the thing as soon as they go beyond half-throttle.
Having said that, the tendency to bite those drivers whose ambition exceeds their talent has always been part of the TVR brand, Peter Wheeler never suffered fools gladly and neither did his cars, and it did them little harm back in the day.
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